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New and imporved frag-For u guys-RBxBouncer

Post by runescare » June 2nd, 2010, 12:22 pm

Hey guys made a new PROMOD frag for u guys i think its pretty good and i didnt use any annoying color effects. Please rate thumbs up and if u like it sub:D

Edit: Forgot the link here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z38EjTdLB4

Oh yeah and with soviets post in mind how come barely anyone makes videos anymore. I see the occasional player make them but matty is the only one who makes them for cj and still there arent many of us out here who still make videos whats goin on
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Post by Pedsdude » June 2nd, 2010, 2:37 pm

You should add &fmt=37 on the end so that it loads in highest quality for people ;)

As for the video itself, unfortunately I wasn't too impressed :( It's clear you've put a lot of time into it, but the kills themselves aren't that impressive and I thought the music needed to be louder in proportion to the in-game sounds. I would also remove the details at the bottom left of the screen (where it shows rounds won, who's killed who etc.).

With regards to people barely making videos anymore, not many people made videos beforehand anyway. Other than Matty, I can't remember many members of the community bringing out many videos recently (apart from Infinite and Hoogie bringing out their own frag movies, but there weren't many of them.) Perhaps it's because we're in exam time?
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Re: New and imporved frag-For u guys-RBxBouncer

Post by Ajic » June 2nd, 2010, 3:31 pm

Perhaps you could practise effects and stuff by making minimovies and asking your friends opinions?

Some things to note about:

- /ui_hud_hardcore 1
- You have wrong aspect ratio.
- You might want to record only sound for kills
- Make overall ingame volume lower
- Do not play demo in promod, or if it wasn't then /r_distortion 1
- Try syncing frags
- Cut clips
- Get better kills
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Post by R4d0xZz » June 2nd, 2010, 4:33 pm

i cant even watch it because of youtube´s copyright stuff ........ :roll:
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Post by ultralala » June 2nd, 2010, 5:03 pm

R4d0xZz wrote:i cant even watch it because of youtube´s copyright stuff ........ :roll:
use a proxy nub :mrgreen:
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Post by R4d0xZz » June 2nd, 2010, 5:35 pm

proxy ofc. for 1 sec. from a movie it needs like 1 min to load
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Post by Innkeeper » June 3rd, 2010, 1:08 am

It looked like you were experimenting with a lot of different effects that didnt fit together into an overarching style, and didnt fit with the music at all. Also the music gave you very few opportunities for sync, which hurt the movie.
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Post by Soviet » June 3rd, 2010, 1:25 am

It wasn't bad, but it doesn't particularly stand out either. I think the biggest issue that detracts from it is the quality of the kills. Some of the kills are quite good, others not so much. But as important as the kills themselves is the presentation. You need to focus the effects on the kills, not the transitions. You did this in some parts, like flashing when getting a kill, but make sure you do it after the kill actually occurs so the person watching actually sees it happen.

I'd say overall the issue I had with it was inconsistency. You used a number of different effects, some were good, others weren't so good. Regardless, there was no consistency. You switched effects throughout and really didn't keep anything the same except the song. The same goes for editing, in some parts you cut from action to action very quickly, in others you left in a 20 second segment of us watching you run around the map. Slow parts are good as long as they help create unity in the video, typically through the slow speed coinciding with a specific point in the audio.

Also, on the subject of audio. The song choice, while not bad, could have been much better. That song is very bland and monotone and while it makes it very easy to edit for, it also means that there isn't a roller coaster ride, it's just sitting there watching frags from start to finish. Additionally, I would take out the ingame audio, it really isn't necessary and tends to distract more than anything. When you're making a frag movie you want to create a cinematic experience, and a good way to do that is immerse the viewer in your music so they get sucked into the flow of your movie, rather than immersed in the inconsistent sounds of the game.

So in conclusion, more unity, use same general effects, and when you create variation do it because it occurs in the song, not because you decided to piece the demos together a certain way when editing it. Regardless of all these things, though, the main issue you're going to continue to encounter when people are critiquing your movies are the quality of the kills. You're simply finding some interesting kills and piecing them together because you want to make a movie. When you make a movie you want it to be the other way around. That is, you created the movie because you have all these awesome kills you want to show off. When you're using frags that you got solely to be put into a video, it shows in their quality. Granted, some were quite nice, however others weren't really fit to be in there.

So in conclusion again, since I went off on a tangent there, nice video, good progress, but it still feels like more of a compilation of kills than a frag movie.

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Re: New and imporved frag-For u guys-RBxBouncer

Post by runescare » June 3rd, 2010, 3:00 pm

ok soviet that was quite helpful i got a few questions. One: besides a flash and a quick bad sync what is another way to show a kill like tilting the screen on a nice sniper shot?

and 2: what show my fov_scale be set to
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Re: New and imporved frag-For u guys-RBxBouncer

Post by Ajic » June 3rd, 2010, 4:18 pm

Watch some good frag movies in http://www.tek-9.org/cinema or http://wipido.com and learn effects from them.
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Re: New and imporved frag-For u guys-RBxBouncer

Post by Soviet » June 3rd, 2010, 8:08 pm

A tilt is good, the flash, you could also darken the scene, switch to a quick slow mo, increase contrast, brightness, or change the tint to red. You could also loop the split second of the kill several times very quickly if it would go with the music. The tilt is probably the best one to go with though, it's easy to change slightly based on each kill and still keep consistent throughout. Others like color change or looping can get old quickly and are much harder to fit in.

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