Hunting

[Hoogie]

<3 how Hoogie + Drof are talking about different things, but Hoogie doesn't seem to realise

I know i can be retarded sometimes but not that retarded. Just making my point and not taking the bait

[Drofder2004]

I can't use anything that makes too loud a noise. It would cause a stampede effect and I sadly cannot outrun these groups of prey, I would be trampled to death.

Also the meat I need is really hard to obtain and there are many political and activist groups that are against the killing of this species even though they are migrating to this country at alarming rates and reproducing more of their kind than are being killed.

I have seen documentaries of animal slaughter that use electro-devices than stun the creatures but getting hold of one with the strict laws in this country is near impossible. I do feel I require a more modern method than using a pitchfork as it does raise a few eyebrows when walking to my hunting grounds but usually I can avoid the attention as the alarms from police vehicles usually set off a panic amongst these rabid creatures and they scatter before I get a chance.

I will look into it, as a less painful death will then lead to a quieter death and as I said, the less noise the better.

[cianw1]

i lold quite a bit at drofder and hoogies conversation.

But when i go shooting i always aim for the right place, just behind the eye. if your not a complete idiot and not unlucky (wind etc) this will cause instant death. the pellets used(air rifle) fragment on impact and basically tears the brain apart - i know it doesnt sound nice at all but trust me, it kills them in a split second. if you are unfortunate and they are only wounded its quite sad and i try to kill them as quickly and humanely as possible. the reckommended way is a quick hard strike to the back of the skull with a stick which will cause massive trauma and kill quick. also i use most parts of the rabbits. the backmeat and legs can be eaten, and if theres spare i can feed to my dog which is much better than dried out dogfood. also the skins can be tanned which i am hoping to try soon.

As for the hunting meat vs distribution meat = what would you prefer? 'free range' meat that has been wild all its life, or some battery farmed shit thats had a life which wasnt worth living; in cramped condition and beeing overfed to increase profit? Rabbits are neccesary to be killed by farmers as they are a pest. they dig up gardens, dig holes and wreck fences and sappling. surely it is better they are killed and put to good use rather than be killed and left to rot also? please think of both sides of the argument. i dont kill for fun..

[cianw1]

and drofder, what things do you hunt?? Cows o_O ??

[Infinite]

The only valid argument you have Hoogie is that they can be guaranteed to suffer less, but even with that, there are some companies that make them suffer just as much if not more than if they were hunted. Having personally gone through the whole process of hunting, all body parts of the animal are mainly used, or given away unless the hunter decides to throw away the organs inside. The only part of the animal that is not used that I can think of is the bones, which have almost no use except for fertilizer.

Hunting animals:
Pros: Can be fun. You can use whatever you get from the animal, without paying too much depending on how you hunt. Can help to lower pest populations or overpopulation of animals. The meat you get is natural (and usually tastes better imo)
Cons: The animal has a chance of actually suffering for more than a few seconds. You might need to get a license to hunt. It's not too easy to hunt animals.

Farming animals via companies:
Pros: You don't have to deal with gutting the animal and retrieving what you want. It's easier to get. All of the animal is used.
Cons: You don't know what's put into the meat. It costs more money than to hunt it.
Neutral: An animal may suffer more or less than hunting them.

I don't know why you would honestly bring up the suffering thing in the first place. Should we bring out that one video of the cows, sheep, and other animals getting their throats slit to kill them in order to prove my point?

I have seen documentaries of animal slaughter that use electro-devices than stun the creatures but getting hold of one with the strict laws in this country is near impossible. I do feel I require a more modern method than using a pitchfork as it does raise a few eyebrows when walking to my hunting grounds but usually I can avoid the attention as the alarms from police vehicles usually set off a panic amongst these rabid creatures and they scatter before I get a chance.

I would suggest bringing one of those blow dart gun with a knockout dart such as this:



It's not really modern, but it'd be pretty fun to see people stare at you while you bring it into the forest

[BeZZo]

If you want a more "silent" kill, use a silencer

[Infinite]

If you want a more "silent" kill, use a silencer

If he bought one, that would also alert the goverment to wonder what he wants wit ha silencer, not to mention the probable heavy taxes on silencers if he were to buy an "official" one. He could always attempt to make a custom one, but that would be difficult, unless he were to use a low caliber gun such as a .22 with a water bottle fitted on the end of it with some sort of cushion inside of it (something similar to that foam shit that you can blow out of a can into cracks in walls, I forget what it's called).

[cianw1]

Silencers are 100% legal to buy in UK they are better to not alert the rest of the animals in the area.

[Infinite]

Silencers are 100% legal to buy in UK they are better to not alert the rest of the animals in the area.

I never said they were illegal, just heavily taxed probably .

[cianw1]

Ah ok. this is where i get my stuff from anyway: http://www.airgunbuyer.com/

[Soviet]

The fact that you find killing defenseless animals with guns 'fun' is demented. Not to mention you're a coward.

[Drofder2004]

I get my pitchforks from B&Q and my spades from overseas.
The pitchfork is subject to VAT but the spade is only subject to costs incurred for transportation and eventually a release fee.

I was thinking about buying a gun as it would allow me to hit more prey and at a distance, but I cannot guarantee a good silent kill without being upclose, its a lot easier and sneak up behind them and get a quick kill, but like I said it does have the negative effects of requiring a stray.

As the population of the creatures grow, I will have no choice to get a quicker method. Has anyone tried using explosives? I could place inside large fruit and lure them in and get many of them at once, but it would need to be a little quieter than your standard explsoive, maybe gas propelled BB's or something?

the other problem though is storing the meat, I can hardly hang them outside (although it did prove popular many years ago) and I haven't got room for it all. So, would probably have to start a trade to shift it all, anyone know any large butchers that specialise in dark meats?

[Infinite]

I get my pitchforks from B&Q and my spades from overseas.
The pitchfork is subject to VAT but the spade is only subject to costs incurred for transportation and eventually a release fee.

I was thinking about buying a gun as it would allow me to hit more prey and at a distance, but I cannot guarantee a good silent kill without being upclose, its a lot easier and sneak up behind them and get a quick kill, but like I said it does have the negative effects of requiring a stray.

As the population of the creatures grow, I will have no choice to get a quicker method. Has anyone tried using explosives? I could place inside large fruit and lure them in and get many of them at once, but it would need to be a little quieter than your standard explsoive, maybe gas propelled BB's or something?

The only problem with explosives is that most of them make shrapnel, which flies into various areas of your target, making it hard to get out of the meat. It would be easier to just stick with your pitchfork VATS system and spade.

The fact that you find killing defenseless animals with guns 'fun' is demented. Not to mention you're a coward.

I never said I enjoyed it. I only said that it can be fun. You have some nice reading comprehension.

How am I a coward? Random insults don't get you anywhere in a discussion or argument.

[Drofder2004]

The only problem with explosives is that most of them make shrapnel, which flies into various areas of your target, making it hard to get out of the meat. It would be easier to just stick with your pitchfork VATS system and spade.

Hmm, good point about the shrapnel. How about using something like gumballs or small gobstoppers. They are quite solid and yet edible. The spade is only good for helping me carry the meat back.

[Infinite]

The only problem with explosives is that most of them make shrapnel, which flies into various areas of your target, making it hard to get out of the meat. It would be easier to just stick with your pitchfork VATS system and spade.

Hmm, good point about the shrapnel. How about using something like gumballs or small gobstoppers. They are quite solid and yet edible. The spade is only good for helping me carry the meat back.

That would work fine, except I would question the lethality since I've never personally seen a gobstopper grenade or the effects of one going off. I would imagine it would be like molten/burned specks of candy flying into everything in all directions within 15 meters of it, and I would guess that it would be quite deadly.