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Post by Pedsdude » September 7th, 2007, 7:46 pm

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In the past I had uploaded a lot of videos I had taken of goals from Newcastle United games (these were goal videos I took with my own camera at the event, not television footage). At the time, I believed that I wasn't breaking any copyright rules seeing as it was my own footage, but it turns out it was.

Consequently, a while ago they removed about 9 of my videos (all of which were Premiership goals) and since then I haven't uploaded any Premiership goal videos. There were still a few Premiership goal videos left on my account at the time, but I didn't remove them myself, because I assumed they had checked the rest of the videos on my account and had deemed them to be acceptable.

Today I received an e-mail explaining that another one of my videos had been removed (a Premiership goal video that I had uploaded ages ago (before the others had been removed). I then went on YouTube, and when I tried to log in I got the following message:
Your account has been permanently disabled.
So, I've sent the following message to them through the contact us section of the site:
I would like to ask if my account can be reopened. I am aware that some of my videos went against copyright rules, but I thought the offending videos had been removed and none of the videos on my account broke any copyright laws. Since the removal of some of my videos, I have not uploaded any videos which I believe to have broken copyright laws.
I've received an e-mail back confirming that they've received my message, and will get back to me soon. They even had the cheek to include the following message in the email!:
We appreciate your interest in YouTube and will use your feedback to
continue improving our product for you.
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Post by [SoE]_Zaitsev » September 7th, 2007, 8:22 pm

The last bit... wtf, do they have automated responses ? :shock:

And what's the problem about copyright crap ? There's hundreds of movies of goals!
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Post by aicaramba » September 7th, 2007, 10:49 pm

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Post by Pedsdude » September 8th, 2007, 1:47 am

[SoE]_Zaitsev wrote:The last bit... wtf, do they have automated responses ? :shock:

And what's the problem about copyright crap ? There's hundreds of movies of goals!
It's basically an automated response to let me know they've received it, and that they'll get back to me.

I don't see any problem with my videos tbh. It's hardly an alternative to watching it on TV.
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Post by Neon » September 8th, 2007, 11:13 am

I thought anything done with your own camera was allowed ;/ Because all of this years X game footage was removed by whoever does the TV for them, except the stuff people recorded themselves ;/
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Post by [SoE]_Zaitsev » September 8th, 2007, 11:34 am

So then you need to ban the clips of music festivals aswell because you made those yourself (Think mobile phone footage).
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Post by Pedsdude » September 8th, 2007, 3:27 pm

Yep, apparantly even if it's footage from your own camera, it's breaking copyright laws. That goes for music events, too.
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Post by Drofder2004 » September 9th, 2007, 1:54 am

http://www.out-law.com/page-8030

Ever since then, youtube has stopped the posting of football videos.

I honestly do not believe they will reopen your account, it is too much hassle for them to bother looking into it, good luck though.
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Post by Pedsdude » September 9th, 2007, 1:15 pm

Still no reply from them, I'm starting to think they probably won't reply.
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Post by Drofder2004 » September 9th, 2007, 3:00 pm

Here...

re-email them, and quote them this... taken directly from their site.
Respect copyright. Only upload videos that you made or that you have obtained the rights to use. This means don't upload videos you didn't make, or use content in your videos that someone else owns the copyright to, such as music tracks, snippets of copyrighted programs, or videos made by other users, without their permission.
Tell them you believed the videos you had uploaded were not breach of copyright and that you received no warning of the copyright infringement, or a warning for the account to be suspended.

You may also want to quote the following...
Repeat infringers' videos are removed and their accounts are terminated and permanently blocked from using YouTube.
Add to that, that you uploaded all the videos before you were informed of uploading disallowed content and only a few of your videos were removed. You were then punished again for the same videos which the admin failed to remove. You were not given a warning to remove your videos and neither were you advised on which videos were a breach in copyright, so any videos left on your account were deemed 'allowed' by the admins.

If you do not get a response by tomorrow, resend your email to "copyright@youtube.com" & "editor@youtube.com" and say you received no replies from the customer service.
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Post by [SoE]_Zaitsev » September 9th, 2007, 6:41 pm

It's pretty stupid tbh :shock:

They will have to ban loads and loads of accounts.
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Post by Drofder2004 » September 9th, 2007, 7:09 pm

[SoE]_Zaitsev wrote:It's pretty stupid tbh :shock:

They will have to ban loads and loads of accounts.
Of which they probably have done. They have lots of admins working in shifts for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
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Post by Pedsdude » September 10th, 2007, 7:11 pm

The only problem, is that they have a limit of 350 characters including spaces in the contact form. I initially wrote a detailed message about my situation, but had to cut down a significant amount of it to 349 characters. I've still had no reply - what are the chances of them replying to me if I e-mail them directly, do you reckon?
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Post by Nightmare » September 10th, 2007, 8:30 pm

They will probably be pretty slim, I am sure you are not the only one sending this type email.
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Post by Drofder2004 » September 11th, 2007, 2:18 pm

Pedsdude wrote:The only problem, is that they have a limit of 350 characters including spaces in the contact form. I initially wrote a detailed message about my situation, but had to cut down a significant amount of it to 349 characters. I've still had no reply - what are the chances of them replying to me if I e-mail them directly, do you reckon?
Email the copyright team, they are obviously at their computer banning people >.>...
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