Lighting issue

[B4.]

The map im working on is getting close, and is not a very light map


Im starting to place lights around in tunnels and caves where the players will travel, and all was going good, till they stopped updateing when i was testing map.

As ive been through and moved and changed lights that dont work anymore. Deleted and replaced lights from the menu instead of copying and moving.

After every time ive change a location or added a light, ive saved map, ive recompliled BSP and recompiled reflections then rebuilt fast files before running selected map.

I have reflection probes above the main player areas.

I tried decreasing the numbers of lights and increasing the radius to cut the total number down and still no change, the light that was thrown from the removed lights still remains in areas.

From the light options ive tried extra and modelshadow and debug lightmaps from the BPS options.

I did look at the light grid and did start to edit a bit, but with a jump map it is hard to get every where you will jump and bounce so exited that idea, maybe now its started it may be affecting things?? I have tried deleteing the /ram/maps/mp/ .grid file since then.

Also uploaded it to my server to test to see if any different there and still no different.

Theres something ive missed to stop any lighting updates.

Atm ive run out of ideas to try,


Thanks

[Drofder2004]

Post a full compile log, with lighting setting to fast.

[Rezil]

Use the same settings, then report back if you still have the problem.

[B4.]

Tried those settings Rezil and it still has old lighting showing.

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A subdirectory or file E:\Cod4_17 - Map\raw\maps\mp\ already exists.
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24243 files in iwd files
Loading map file E:\Cod4_17 - Map\map_source\mp_valley.map
writing E:\Cod4_17 - Map\raw\maps\mp\mp_valley.d3dprt

finding triangle windings...
coalescing coincident windings...
removing occluded winding fragments...
assigning primary lights...
finding sun shadow casters...
splitting large windings...
merging into concave windings...
fixing t-junctions...
tethering holes to their concave windings...
building lightmap groups...
assigning lightmaps...
finding index mapping and snapping vertices...
triangulating all windings...
0 self-tjunctions fixed
0 degenerate tris removed
smoothing normals...
emitting triangles...
triangulating all windings...
0 self-tjunctions fixed
0 degenerate tris removed
smoothing normals...
emitting triangles...
combining layered materials...
126 vertices couldn't be merged because the textures point different ways
emitting cells and portals...

building curve/terrain collision...
Adding brush neighbor bevels...
Removing redundant brush collision planes...
removed 6 brush sides
elapsed time 0 seconds
Finished processing world entity

Writing E:\Cod4_17 - Map\raw\maps\mp\mp_valley.d3dbsp
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using map radiosityScale 2


using map contrastGain 0.15

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Calculating ground lighting for static models...
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Light grid sample point file 'E:\Cod4_17 - Map\raw\maps\mp\mp_valley.grid' not f
ound.
Vis cache logfile 'E:\Cod4_17 - Map\raw\maps\mp\mp_valley.vclog' not found; usin
g static model origins only.
Light grid sample point file 'E:\Cod4_17 - Map\raw\maps\mp\mp_valley.grid_auto'
not found.
Light grid sample point file 'E:\Cod4_17 - Map\raw\maps\mp\mp_valley.grid_not' n
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Fastfile 1 of 2, "mp_valley": [ver. 5] process...link...compress...save...done.
Fastfile 2 of 2, "mp_valley_load": [ver. 5] process...link...compress...save...d
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The error part of that:

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Calculating ground lighting for static models...
Finished in 0 seconds.
Light grid sample point file 'E:\Cod4_17 - Map\raw\maps\mp\mp_valley.grid' not f
ound.
Vis cache logfile 'E:\Cod4_17 - Map\raw\maps\mp\mp_valley.vclog' not found; usin
g static model origins only.
Light grid sample point file 'E:\Cod4_17 - Map\raw\maps\mp\mp_valley.grid_auto'
not found.
Light grid sample point file 'E:\Cod4_17 - Map\raw\maps\mp\mp_valley.grid_not' n
ot found.

and if i use the .grid file i backed up when I started trying things:

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Calculating ground lighting for static models...
Finished in 0 seconds.
Using 1578 grid points from grid logfile 'E:\Cod4_17 - Map\raw\maps\mp\mp_valley
.grid'.
Light grid sample point file 'E:\Cod4_17 - Map\raw\maps\mp\mp_valley.grid_auto'
not found.
Light grid sample point file 'E:\Cod4_17 - Map\raw\maps\mp\mp_valley.grid_not' n
ot found.

[Drofder2004]

Also, how many light entities do you have and how many relfection nodes?

[B4.]

46 lights and 31 reflection probes,

[B4.]

I deleted all the lights and the map cleaned up, re added lights and added some more probes (now 51 Lights, 55 Probes). Added more refelction probes over jump pads.
So looks like its not old lighing causing it.

Reduced the radius of the lights to stop any overlapping and increased the ambient in world spawn to counter it.

Still have lights that have no light emiting, and some strainge glows where light are not. There is a large difference from the running map to the spread in the Light Preview where all the lights are working.

[Drofder2004]

Delete all lights and compile with lighting, are there still lights being produced?

Are all your filters in radiant ticked?

[B4.]

All the filters are ticked,

Ive tried the compile with out any lights and the light marks are not there,
Looks like its coming from a light across the room, which is 500 away, the light has a radius set at just 100. Even deleted all the refection probes in the room as well and had no change.

The light settings are default:
color 1 1 1
angles 0 90 0
classname light
def light_point_linear
intensity 1
origin 0 1664 372
radius 100

The texture in the room is ch_cliff01

Starting to wonder if it something to do with reflections on that texture? might try another and see.

Also can you add the light settings to a light prefab like com_utility_light_on.map? to do away with light probe.

[Drofder2004]

Try using the 3D light preview and see if it differs from ingame.

http://modsonline.com/Tutorials-read-463.html

[B4.]

Ive been using the light preview to set the light positions and almost at the stage of changing the lights prefabs to spotlights and adding a null to force direction.

There is a huge difference from light preveiw to in game and thats whats got me worried about whats causing it. Alot of the lights in preview are not even showing in game.

[Drofder2004]

Stuck for ideas without seeing the actual ingame and map stuff.