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Need help / advice :)

Post by FLIXZR » July 25th, 2010, 2:44 pm

Hey guys.

Basically, the PC I have atm is struggling to give me decent FPS. I can get 125 no problem, but when it comes to 250/333 I struggle to keep constant fps. There's some maps where I can get 333, but it's not constant. I play all low graphics, even have full bright on, fx off, etc.

My current PC is:
MSI MS-7250
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
2GB RAM
GeForce 9800 GT

I'm looking to buy a new PC, 1 that will get me 333 constant FPS with no problems at all, but I'm unsure what to get and where to buy it. I was thinking http://www.overclockers.co.uk but not sure on how good the system bundles are? :x Anyone recommend?

Will I be able to buy a decent PC for around £600-800 ?

Help appreciated, ty :D

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Post by Pedsdude » July 25th, 2010, 3:25 pm

FLIXZR wrote:I'm looking to buy a new PC, 1 that will get me 333 constant FPS with no problems at all, but I'm unsure what to get and where to buy it. I was thinking http://www.overclockers.co.uk but not sure on how good the system bundles are? :x Anyone recommend?

Will I be able to buy a decent PC for around £600-800 ?
With that price range, it should be easily achievable. Overclockers are a good website, as are http://www.scan.co.uk - as for actual things to get, I'm not much of an expert on the hardware side of things, so will let the more knowledgeable members of the community give their advice :)
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Re: Need help / advice :)

Post by FLIXZR » July 25th, 2010, 4:12 pm

Cheers

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Re: Need help / advice :)

Post by Mooselflies » July 25th, 2010, 6:01 pm

Strange i have the same type of pc but 9500 gt and 4gb of ram and i can get 500-600 fps :S

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Post by Soviet » July 25th, 2010, 6:16 pm

That's what I was thinking Moose. Either you've got some defective hardware or your CPU/RAM are bottlenecking your performance. Before going all out and getting a new computer, I'd suggest simply getting a Zalman CNPS9900 and overclocking the hell out of your CPU if you're comfortable doing that sort of thing. My guess is you could get to about 3.4ghz without any trouble.

Additionally, you could cheaply buy another 2gb of RAM. Unfortunately, it's not quite as simple as that. If you're not using DDR2 800 RAM, I'd suggest upgrading to that as it is the highest your motherboard supports. Also, you have to take into consideration how many memory slots your computer has. Plus, you also need to factor in dual channel support, meaning you always want to have an even number of sticks of RAM in order to maximize performance. Due to all these limitations, your best option may simply be to grab 2 2gb DDR2 800 sticks of RAM.

The only financial risk you'd be taking with this move is the RAM. The CNPS9900 is a fantastic cooler that works on just about any socket type and could easily be moved over to a new PC if this upgrade doesn't work. You'd probably, however, have to get new RAM if you wanted it to be compatible with a new motherboard. As Peds said, you'd have no trouble getting an excellent PC with that budget and I can help you out if that is still the direction you want to go, but doing this upgrade could have similar effects and would only cost you about £80.

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Post by FLIXZR » July 25th, 2010, 8:00 pm

Thanks for the reply. ^_^

Another reasoning for wanting a new PC is because of a few problems I'm also having. It's been an ongoing problem for months, where sometimes my cod will freeze for a few seconds and the graphics will completely mess up. Examples:

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It's not overheating, so I have no idea. Faulty graphics card? The problem I'm thinking is if I was to buy more memory sticks, try it out and notice no difference, where do I go from there? Lol

I'm still thinking a new PC is the way to go, cus I've had this 1 for a while and it's shit imo. :(

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Post by ConnoR » July 25th, 2010, 8:30 pm

Those screenshots are weird :S What happens after it unfreezes. Any error messages?
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Re: Need help / advice :)

Post by Soviet » July 25th, 2010, 8:47 pm

It's either graphics card or RAM. I'm sure somebody with more tech knowledge could tell you which one.

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Post by FLIXZR » July 25th, 2010, 9:51 pm

Suppose new PC is way to go then.

Now where do I buy from? and what system bundles do you recommend? And what sort of FPS will I be getting with them?

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Post by Soviet » July 25th, 2010, 10:43 pm

Assuming you don't need a monitor:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... 44&subcat=

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM
Graphics Card: Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5850 1024MB GDDR5
Security: No Security Software

That will cost you £713.23

You will probably get close to 333fps constant on all high.

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Post by FLIXZR » July 25th, 2010, 11:36 pm

Alright, that could be 1 possibility. ;x

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Post by Soviet » July 26th, 2010, 2:58 pm

I was originally going to 'build' you a PC, but I was pretty impressed by the specs and price on that one.

Case: The Antec series of gaming cases are easily the best around, I might have recommended a 600 or 900, but 300 is more than enough, especially when it's built by people who know what they're doing.
Power Supply: OCZ is a good brand, 600w is pretty much the perfect amount for what you need.
CPU: The great thing about this processor is that not only is it a top notch processor, but the potential capability for overclocking is outstanding. I'd rank this PC as one of the top quad cores out there, matched only by similar i7's (which are typically 5 times more expensive).
Motherboard: A Gigabyte motherboard is the way to go most of the time, and the 760g is good enough quality to guarantee it won't bottleneck your system. Additionally, you'll have excellent hard drive speeds and USB 3.0 support with this motherboard.
RAM: Corsair is awesome, DDR3 is awesome, and the speed is some of the best you can get with the AM3 core.
Hard Drive: Solid states are still way too expensive. Seagate has gone downhill a little as of late, but it's really not that big of an issue. You could always use your old hard drive, but I really don't see it being necessary. The 500gb will ensure you won't run out of space in the foreseeable future :P
Graphics Card: Sapphire is hands down the best manufacturer of ATI cards, and the HD 5850 is hands down one of the best graphics cards on the market today. It outperforms most of nVidia's GTX series and is still considered top of the line as far as ATI is concerned. There isn't a card I would have recommended otherwise, and this way you're probably getting it cheaper than you would otherwise.
Sound: Not a big deal but 7.1 will give you anything you wanted as far as sound is concerned, no need for anything more.
Optical Drive: No need for Blu-Ray, that's a huge waste of a lot of money. 22x DVD is a little above the standard anyway.

Couple all that with Windows 7 64 bit and you've got what I would consider an upper-range gaming PC. Those specs are about the best you can get without being a stupid enthusiast who wastes a thousand pounds on Crossfire or SSD.

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Re: Need help / advice :)

Post by FLIXZR » July 26th, 2010, 10:04 pm

Thanks again Sov :D

I'll probably be thinking about getting that system.

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