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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by ultralala » June 9th, 2010, 6:49 pm

didnt read the topic till now..i change rcon...sorry all :S Thought you jump till Cod1 or OU...didnt u see what happened to Atze or are u just stupid
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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by Drofder2004 » June 9th, 2010, 6:55 pm

I suggest you take a look into who you have given RCON too and review...

(Does your server record DVAR changes? If so, I would suggest looking into who was on the server at the time of the DVAR being changed)
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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by [SoE]_Zaitsev » June 9th, 2010, 7:05 pm

If you can achieve it with jump_height_40 then you must be able to achieve it normally. Cheating or not, I can't say for sure.

But when this was discovered (Back in CoD2) we found out Atze cheated on a lot of demos by changing jump height.
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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by Drofder2004 » June 9th, 2010, 7:08 pm

[SoE]_Zaitsev wrote:If you can achieve it with jump_height_40 then you must be able to achieve it normally.
Not sure how you figure that...
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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by [SoE]_Zaitsev » June 9th, 2010, 7:14 pm

I'm not saying it's possible to achieve but I'm saying that Moose should just try again, because he can personally manage it.
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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by [SoE]_Zaitsev » June 9th, 2010, 9:19 pm

40 is just like minimal difference... If you can manage with 40, even though it's cheating, doing it with 39 is doable.
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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by Drofder2004 » June 9th, 2010, 10:03 pm

[SoE]_Zaitsev wrote:40 is just like minimal difference... If you can manage with 40, even though it's cheating, doing it with 39 is doable.
Silly theory. There will ALWAYS be a maximum. The maths behind the strafe jump says there is a set limit due to a maximum achievable height and velocity. If I achieve maxmimum height and velocity I may (for example) reach 320. If I change the max height, there is every chance I will reach 321.

We MAY have already reached the limit, and until someone beats it without cheating, this will remain the case.
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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by Soviet » June 9th, 2010, 11:07 pm

Technically 322 is possible with normal jump height, however, as it has been done with scripts.

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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by [SoE]_Zaitsev » June 10th, 2010, 1:45 pm

Yeh, but script is cheating. Atleast for gaps.
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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by Soviet » June 10th, 2010, 2:58 pm

Yes, but all a script does is optimize every single bit of movement a person does. No settings are actually altered, it is simply a strafe jump performed without human error. That therefore means that with all normal settings, if a person were to do it just right, they could in fact make a 322.

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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by Mooselflies » June 10th, 2010, 3:02 pm

well i need a proper server by trusted ppl so i can do the gap without silly admins. Anyone will help me?

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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by [SoE]_Zaitsev » June 10th, 2010, 3:26 pm

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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by The President » June 10th, 2010, 3:39 pm

Mooselflies wrote:well i need a proper server by trusted ppl so i can do the gap without silly admins. Anyone will help me?
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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by Mooselflies » June 10th, 2010, 3:53 pm

yea but i have to either vote or wat for the map to come :/

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Re: 318 gap :O

Post by ConnoR » June 10th, 2010, 4:42 pm

Surely if a jump is possible with scripts its possible without? But it would have to be the perfect strafe :/
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