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The Gun Switch

Post by WorldDomoNation » January 5th, 2010, 4:01 am

I posted this in another topic, but due to the possible magnitude of the subject I thought I might make this It's own thread. My reason for posting in the general section is the simple fact that this may apply to more than one CoD game. Now, if you want the whole back story of how we found this and all that useless shit, read my post in the Knife Strafe thread. I'm to lazy to get a link so I'll trust you have very basic forum maneuvering skills.

This thread is about a special type of jump called the gun-switch jump that roxzor.of.sorts and I found. The simple explanation is that if you switch your weapon while your strafing up to your jump, you gain a speed boost. During the duration of the gun-switch, it appears to me that you don't have any weight at all to keep you from running at full speed. This in turn causes you to gain a boost of speed, and when combined with a strafe jump, can cause you to jump further.

Now, some interesting points have been brought up (mostly by Drofder I believe) that different weapons allow you to run at different percentages of the full speed. He also stated that there appeared to be no difference in your weight during the process of switching your gun. This seems to be enough valid proof to debunk my claim, but I believe that something allows you to run faster during this time interval.

I really have no interest in the Call of Duty series anymore, so I'll ask you guys to try out this theory. I haven't played the game I originally tried it on in a very long time (CoD4), so I really can't tell you first hand if it even works anymore, or if it works in any other games in the series. If you would like a tutorial, I can most likely arrange something with some community members who might easily pick up on this idea and be able to explain it to other people, so that we could make a video to be posted on youtube.

But for now, I'll give a simple text explanation of the whole process that worked for us when we used it a long time ago:

-Set up for a normal strafe jump by facing at the angle your comfortable with from the ledge you wish to jump from.

-Take out your primary weapon and prepare to strafe.

-Press whatever button you have bound to switch weapons at the same time as you begin the arc for your jump.

-Jump as you would a regular jump, allowing your character to continue to switch weapons in the air if necessary.

Its as easy as that. It might take a little getting used to this method, as it appears that the speed boost only occurs when you are in the process of switching weapons, which might require you to do your run-up than usual. We also found that switching from your main weapon to your pistol worked better because it took longer than the other way around (but i might have that backwards, whichever takes the longest we found to be the best way). Also, we found that certain combinations of weapons were better to use than others:

From an SMG to a pistol worked fine, as well as vice versa.

From a Sniper to a pistol worked fine, as well as vice versa.

From any weapon to an RPG DID NOT work fine. For some reason we found this to only slow down your jump.

Other than that, I have no idea. It's all up to you guys to either make new discoveries with this, or completely debunk my hypothesis like Drofder has already started :D

Oh yeah, and after you give this a try, please leave any feedback in this thread. I will also gladly except any game engine related explanations as to why this does or does not work.
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Re: The Gun Switch

Post by Pedsdude » January 5th, 2010, 4:07 am

Will test tomorrow, too tired atm ;)
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Post by WorldDomoNation » January 5th, 2010, 4:29 am

As I said in my other post, It's been a very long time since i've (rock and rolled, led zep reference ftw) played CoD. We discovered this a very long time ago and always just assumed it worked because it looked like it did. It most definitely helped me jump further distances, but I'm not sure why. We could never really test it, because at the time we only owned mere consoles and did not have access to different stats such as velocity or jump distance as you would on a PC. I do own a PC now but am not inclined to purchase CoD4, as I've moved onto to other games now and have lost interest in that series *cough* CS:S *cough*
that's a nice pic and all, but out of all the pictures you could have taken why'd you take a picture of a plant? :P
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Re: The Gun Switch

Post by aicaramba » January 5th, 2010, 6:45 pm

In coduo, some servers have removed all weapons for jumping, this only slows the char down (slower then a heavy mg). I dont know what happens during a weapon change.
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Re: The Gun Switch

Post by matt101harris » January 5th, 2010, 6:58 pm

as im retarded does any1 mind shorten down what was said up top? I think u said that u jumpbetter when switching a weapon? if so thats bullshit :D
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Re: The Gun Switch

Post by Pedsdude » January 5th, 2010, 9:53 pm

matt101harris wrote:as im retarded does any1 mind shorten down what was said up top? I think u said that u jumpbetter when switching a weapon? if so thats bullshit :D
He's basically saying that if you have a normal weapon equipped, and switch to pistol JUST as you begin your strafe jump arch, you run faster and so jump further.
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Post by WorldDomoNation » January 5th, 2010, 10:35 pm

matty, since i find your comment rather rude, i'm going to respond to it in an equally rude and asshole-ish (like the new word?) manner.

s0, wat i ws tring to t3l yuu gys i stht u cen got the sped byoust by swtchnig yur wepuns wen u strfe jmp! <3 OMG i <3 speling gud!
that's a nice pic and all, but out of all the pictures you could have taken why'd you take a picture of a plant? :P
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Because plants have some really small details. If a plant comes out nice in a photo, you have yourself a good camera ;)
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Re: The Gun Switch

Post by runescare » January 6th, 2010, 4:07 am

Idk if i did it right but to my test it didnt do a diffrence but i will tes more tomorow its late here. ill try new ways.
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Re: The Gun Switch

Post by runescare » January 6th, 2010, 4:10 pm

sorry about the double post but i just tryed it out again and it works fantasticly. Idk when u guys are switching guns but i have got it down wheere i am switching guns while i strafe and it makes a dramatic difference. I could tell this because doing the crash bounce for me took some time and i usually wouldnt make it from the white onning but on th first try i get it from the white part with the gun switch, and i hit it from there on, it really helped and thank u for finding this out. could be a new type of jumping.
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Re: The Gun Switch

Post by matt101harris » January 6th, 2010, 4:26 pm

did i not mention in my comment im a retard... So therefore i have the excuse of being a shit speller. Sorry im not a boffin or nerd like all u lot, but there r some slightly less intelegent people than u (Mr Perfect) in this world...
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Re: The Gun Switch

Post by [SoE]_Zaitsev » January 6th, 2010, 4:34 pm

I don't care how people type, aslong as you don't speak that horrible irl :P
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Re: The Gun Switch

Post by Soviet » January 6th, 2010, 11:39 pm

[SoE]_Zaitsev wrote:I don't care how people type, aslong as you don't speak that horrible irl :P
I agree, as long as Matty his voice isn't like that I have no real issue :roll:

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Re: The Gun Switch

Post by [SoE]_Zaitsev » January 7th, 2010, 1:20 am

omg, I spot a fail! And I understand it straight away >_>
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Re: The Gun Switch

Post by matt101harris » January 7th, 2010, 2:52 am

Even i spoted that 1 :D. Did u mean there was a problem with my voice? i just had a sex change 4 weeks ago, give me a break :S
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Re: The Gun Switch

Post by Soviet » January 7th, 2010, 4:50 am

I was giving an example of Zaitsev's common grammatical error to create a sense of irony that he is okay with bad grammar when, in fact, he has bad grammar as well, somewhat voiding his opinion...

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