What's your opinion?

[BlueDamselfly]

My opinion about the drugs is the following;

It would obviously be a very lucrative activity for our governements if they'd allow it, however, making it legal would obviously make way more drug customers, which would eventually get mental issues, therefore any country which would allow drugs would end up fulled of retarded persons, which is why I am totaly against drug usage.

Oh btw, I live in a little town, about 2,000 people, and a drug user tried to do holds up at our 2 banks, with a wooden stick, using manners such as asking "please", he even stated his dad's name, made me laugh pretty hard

Marijuana is great for medicinal purposes, but since it's so easy to manufacture, the government would lose so much money in medicines that they just have to keep the drug illegal.

That's an awesome argument, I seriously loved it, I'd need to watch that documentary

[Soviet]

Drugs isn't really about depression, mostly.

Sure it is, in a way. Drugs are about making your messed up life feel a little bit better at first. It's about just trying to create an escape. Then, after that it's all about forgetting how much more you've messed up your life by taking more drugs. It's a cyclical pattern that slowly degrades a person to the point of being a drug addict. No recreational drug has any positive effects that outweigh what can be achieved with a little bit of thought or good friends. In my opinion, anyone who turns to drugs is a coward that is unwilling to face real life or stand up to their bad choice in friends (referring to peer pressure drug usage).

[helium]

Hmm. The reason I tried marijuana was out of interest and because of the feeling. I would never use any type of drug (including alcohol) against depression.

But now that you said that, marijuana works very good for people who are depressed and it's nowhere near as dangerous as the pills that you get...

I think that to know what I am talking about you must have tried it yourself, and since you haven't, I totally understand how you think that people use drugs because they are "cowards". I am not a coward, and I know that my friends that smoke it do it for the fun and social part of it, not because they are depressed and need something to cheer their life up

[Soviet]

Considering anti-depression meds are approved by the FDA I think they're probably better. The only side effects most anti depression medications have are more severe symptoms of depression, whereas long term use of drugs like marijuana can cause a number of completely unrelated side effects that do not go away after you stop taking the drug.

Marijuana does absolutely nothing for people who are depressed. It is a false sense of happiness that goes away with the high. There are no positive chemical changes in the brain.

I don't need to try drugs to know they are bad. I know dozens of people who smoke marijuana. I know quite a few who also do more intense things like ecstasy. All of them still have the same (if not more) emotional issues than I do, the only difference is they are also harming their long term health. If you want to have fun buy a skateboard. If you want to be social find some friends and talk to them. If you want to have a good chance of messing up your life and waste time, money, and most likely your health then do drugs.

[helium]

Considering anti-depression meds are approved by the FDA I think they're probably better. The only side effects most anti depression medications have are more severe symptoms of depression, whereas long term use of drugs like marijuana can cause a number of completely unrelated side effects that do not go away after you stop taking the drug.

Marijuana does absolutely nothing for people who are depressed. It is a false sense of happiness that goes away with the high. There are no positive chemical changes in the brain.

I don't need to try drugs to know they are bad. I know dozens of people who smoke marijuana. I know quite a few who also do more intense things like ecstasy. All of them still have the same (if not more) emotional issues than I do, the only difference is they are also harming their long term health. If you want to have fun buy a skateboard. If you want to be social find some friends and talk to them. If you want to have a good chance of messing up your life and waste time, money, and most likely your health then do drugs.

It does help for depression It's also a great method of decreasing rematism (spelling?). Me smoking marijuana has nothing to do with my emotional state of life, and I don't know why you keep bringing it up.

Look, you're trying to compare the fun with riding a skateboard and smoking pot. It just doesn't work. It's not the same type of "fun".

I'm an active skateboarder since I was 9 and I can tell you that there's not many things that are more fun than skating. Marijuana can not be compared to the fun as it has nothing to do with it. Also, you can be social in thousands of different ways. One of them is to smoke that magic herb and chill together.

Since marijuana would be probably as cheap as cigarettes when it's legalized, I wouldn't "waste" my money. In fact, I would like to rewrite that to "spend".

Once again I have to tell you that smoking is next to harmless for most people. There are probably some people that are completely fucked up mentally and are not supposed to smoke, but if they can't figure that out, it's their own fault.

99,9% of my friends have no clue that I have this opinion about marijuana or tried it, since they see me as the smart kid who does good in school, life etc. The truth is that I am very openminded, and that's one of the biggest reasons that I changed my opinion about marijuana.

Also to know that marijuana isn't "dangerous" you need to be semi-smart and know the facts about it

Which of these do you think is LEAST dangerous to your mind and your body?
1. Marijuana
2. Alcohol
3. Tobacco

The answer is pretty obvious, but I still want to see if someone is stupid enough to give me the answer that I am not looking for

[Soviet]

It doesn't matter which one is least harmful, the fact is that they are all harmful. Any benefit you get from smoking pot is a false feeling. Sure, it can't be replicated any other way, but why would I subject myself to smoke inhalation and exposure to several toxic chemicals just to feel good in a different way? Beyond typical physical health risks, marijuana causes memory loss extremely often and has been commonly linked to laziness and a lack of motivation (amotivational syndrome).

Also, the comparison of Marijuana to anti depressants isn't really accurate as most anti depressants focus on serotonin whereas marijuana effects anandamide, which only gives the illusion of improved mood. Marijuana also causes certain psychological effects (apathy, laziness) that are common to depression, so in a way one could say it worsens the symptoms of depression.

I'm not done, I might edit this later. I have to go.

[[SoE]_Zaitsev]

Marijuana does absolutely nothing for people who are depressed. It is a false sense of happiness that goes away with the high. There are no positive chemical changes in the brain.

For this I agree. But, not everybody uses alcohol, any kind of drug or whatever to shade away their depression. People drink to socialize aswell. Not a bad thing, aslong as you don't overdo it. Sure it's bad for your body, but is that your call to make ?

It all comes down to the following:

Aslong as you don't endanger others because of your behaviour, then go ahead.


Also, stating that people are cowards is a lame thing to say. Maybe some are cowards, but some people have serious problems and it's not always as easy to talk about it. Different people, different effects.

[Soviet]

Of course, I feel people have the right to choose whether or not they want to do it, in that way I agree with Helium, however his perspective of it not being very harmful or anything is questionable.

As for the social drinking, we've had this conversation before if I recall correctly. I believe the general point brought forth is that if you can't socialize without drinking then there is obviously something wrong with your social life.

[Drofder2004]

I'm just going to let Soviet get on with this, no point two people arguing the same views

[Soviet]

I'm just going to let Soviet get on with this, no point two people arguing the same views

Awww, but you're so much better at it than me...

[aicaramba]

Thanks for your opinions guys. I think that you are very wrong Drofder but I am not going to make a 5000 word post, but if you just watch the documentary you will see that what you just wrote is a lie.

The typical argument is that "you start off with pot, then you go on the bigger drugs..." and that's just f'in stupid.. That's like saying that you start off with light drinks such as milk but then go on to the heavier drinks such as alcohol. It does not make sense.

That DOES happen, ive seen it in my surroundings.. It doesnt allways have to happen, but it does happen on occasion.
Occasionally use of weed or XTC doesnt fuck u up for good.. But when you use them it gets easyer to start using more dangerous drugs.
about weed.. Its not really bad for you if u use it on occasion, when u really get addicted it may fuck u up more the some of the 'hard drugs'. I like watching tv programs about drugs and stuff, there was one in holland about getting sober and it surprised me that the ones who used weed seemed far more fucked up then the ppl on coke, LSD, XTC, speed and stuff.

[[SoE]_Zaitsev]

Same shit all for me.

I never used drugs, never will. Never smoked, never will. I, probably just like many others drank some beer while going out. Fun and all, but I got kinda fed up of the effects afterwards (I didn't drink till I was drunk).

Go out with mates, you're the only one not drinking is certainly not as fun. If none of your mates are drinking it's fun. You just don't want to be the only one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNbExvU42q4