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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by IrishStorm » May 20th, 2009, 1:31 am

Pedsdude wrote:Because of the enjoyable taste, and for some people (myself included) the way it makes you feel.
i agree ....^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
i have been affected by drink too when i was growing up my mother ex boy friend use to come home from the pub pissed drunk and beat her and me if i got in the way......
i remember all the time's when my grand was alive we pulled him out of the ditch after crashing he's bike and falling a sleep.
Pedsdude wrote:I grew to like the taste of beer :)
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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by Drofder2004 » May 20th, 2009, 2:07 am

IrishStorm wrote:i have been affected by drink too when i was growing up my mother ex boy friend use to come home from the pub pissed drunk and beat her and me if i got in the way......
It's sad to hear something like that, although it does make me wonder why you would still consider drinking.
Maybe I am just seeing from misty goggles or something, but I have always lived by the rules of learning from mistakes, be them mine or by someone else.
Pedsdude wrote:I grew to like the taste of beer :)
I grew to love the taste of milk, now I cannot stand the stuff.
Pedsdude wrote:Because of the enjoyable taste, and for some people (myself included) the way it makes you feel.
Why bother wasting your money on slowly getting that 'feel', for less money and time you can get the same buzz.
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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by Soviet » May 20th, 2009, 4:06 am

Pedsdude wrote:I grew to like the taste of beer :)
Why grow to like something when there are plenty of things that you can naturally like (like soft drinks)?

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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by [SoE]_Zaitsev » May 20th, 2009, 10:39 am

Who ever said going out to become drunk ? I don't go out to become drunk. I go out to have fun, and you have more fun if you're a bit tipsy. You can't go around that. But what am I talking, you guys don't go out :roll:
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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by WorldDomoNation » May 20th, 2009, 12:58 pm

Soft drinks aren't all that great either, they rot your teeth!

But seriously, this argument can go on forever. There are many reasons why alchohal is bad, and many why alchohal is good. You could say the same thing with video games, there entertaining and I enjoy playing them, but I could get a lot done in the time that I play them. I probably shouldn't play them at times, because I have other things that I need to get done, but I do anyways because they're fun.

That example is in no way as serious as the ups and downs of alchohal, but it can get pretty serious when grades start to drop because I wasted time playing video games when I should have been studying. I guess a more serious example would be downhill mountain biking. It's incredibly dangerous, but I do it anyway because I love doing it, and I love the rush. I know people who have died this way (not personaly), but I still do it because I love doing it.
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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by JDogg » May 20th, 2009, 12:59 pm

I hate the taste of alcohol, and ALL soft drinks. I basically just drink water and milk.
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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by Pedsdude » May 20th, 2009, 2:50 pm

Drofder2004 wrote:
IrishStorm wrote:i have been affected by drink too when i was growing up my mother ex boy friend use to come home from the pub pissed drunk and beat her and me if i got in the way......
It's sad to hear something like that, although it does make me wonder why you would still consider drinking.
Maybe I am just seeing from misty goggles or something, but I have always lived by the rules of learning from mistakes, be them mine or by someone else.
Pedsdude wrote:I grew to like the taste of beer :)
I grew to love the taste of milk, now I cannot stand the stuff.
Pedsdude wrote:Because of the enjoyable taste, and for some people (myself included) the way it makes you feel.
Why bother wasting your money on slowly getting that 'feel', for less money and time you can get the same buzz.
Go sniff these...
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What's growing to like and dislike milk got to do with it? Yes, I like the taste of beer and perhaps I'll end up not liking the taste in the future, but while I like the taste of it I'll drink it.

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Pedsdude wrote:I grew to like the taste of beer :)
Why grow to like something when there are plenty of things that you can naturally like (like soft drinks)?
I like soft drinks too and drink them very frequently. The taste of beer is considerably different to the taste of soft drinks, however, so it's not as though one is a replacement for the other - I have both of them in my life and am happier for the experience.


The way I see it, as long as you don't drink to such an extent that you're doing SERIOUS damage to your body, and as long as it doesn't affect you excessively negatively in a psychological way (i.e. beating family members, drink driving), then it's OK. So far, I've been able to enjoy it with none of the negatives I just stated and which seem to be the main arguments for people against alcohol consumption. I don't disagree that there are health issues with it, but as with most things it's a calculated, sober decision I make to enjoy a certain amount of alcohol in exchange for a certain amount of damage to my health.

When you play football, you play it because you enjoy it and the enjoyment overpowers the risk of injury. When people do tricks on skateboards they're aware of the risks involved if you fall off, but they still do it because they enjoy it and deem the benefits to be greater than the potential risks. In general, I view my alcohol consumption in the same light - if it gets to the point where I'm doing significant damage to my health or others around me, then I'll reconsider, but as it stands my alcohol consumption isn't doing anyone harm apart from myself (and even that is minor, I would say).
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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by waywaaaard » May 20th, 2009, 3:25 pm

When I am drunk I don't get aggressive and what to beat or drive anyways, I am talking a lot of bullshit, what can be quite fun and sometimes not always you get known to new people and that's why I go out - to have fun and meet new people.

You say you could also drink softdrinks, but I really dislike them, usually I drink only water from the stop cock or beer and some well harder cocktails, sometimes too much, mostly a bit so we are in a good mood and enjoy the evening. It's not that I have been already thinking ok you vomited - I will never drink again, but then just taste a good Zirndorfer or Huppendorfer or Andechser (best beers in world, I am from Bavaria - I know what I am talking about) ...

Before my intoxication I haven't been drinking for 1 month and then it was a bit too much, but I don't feel bad about it.

I guess if you have such bad experience with people who drunk effects your life and it prevents you doing the same way cause you don't want to be the same. My grandfather died due to smoking and lung cancer - and wasn't a enjoyable death - I thought I would never smoke. Despite that I tried a shisha with some cherry tobbaco, which was really good and some times I smoke now shisha, but would never smoke normal cigarettes because I just don't like the taste of it.

I always say if you haven't tried you shouldn't prejudge about such things, although I would never try hard drugs and other things.
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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by aicaramba » May 20th, 2009, 5:05 pm

But that only happens when he drinks too much... Moral lines seem to get vague.
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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by [SoE]_Zaitsev » May 20th, 2009, 6:31 pm

Thanks KS, needed a joke in this topic :D
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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by Drofder2004 » May 20th, 2009, 7:23 pm

WorldDomoNation wrote:There are many reasons why alchohal is bad, and many why alchohal is good.
Ok, you list 3 that are good.
If you list a social aspect, such as 'having [more] fun' or something similar, feel free to list another, if you are unable to have fun, equal or greater to when you have had a drink, you have a serious social issue, its a form of drink dependency.
[SoE]_Zaitsev wrote:Thanks KS, needed a joke in this topic :D
Did you not notice Peds join the topic?
I always say if you haven't tried you shouldn't prejudge about such things, although I would never try hard drugs and other things.
Be right back, just gonna smoke a joint, snort some coke, inject some heroin and slit my wrists. What about murder, rape, torture and clubbing seals? Sorry, but I think it is a lot quicker to simply have a bit of common sense and be prejudice against things without jumping head first.
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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by waywaaaard » May 20th, 2009, 8:26 pm

Drofder2004 wrote: Be right back, just gonna smoke a joint, snort some coke, inject some heroin and slit my wrists. What about murder, rape, torture and clubbing seals? Sorry, but I think it is a lot quicker to simply have a bit of common sense and be prejudice against things without jumping head first.
this is maybe your moral, but who defines it - and it the human itself that he/she can't go on things without prejudice I guess - you don't want to drink a beer - don't do it - if you get lucky with energy drinks and pushing yourself with them up do it - but maybe try to understand that others just enjoy alcohol - as many others
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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by Drofder2004 » May 20th, 2009, 8:40 pm

I'm sure people aren't fully listening (reading). I am not asking anyone to stop drinking. I really couldn't give a toss if you all died of alcohol consumption, its your choice in life and I respect that. I am simply asking for reasoning, maybe I just cannot understand how people can simply outweigh all their negatives that alcohol brings because it makes them happy.

You might as well justify and accept anything that makes people happy, because you should allow them to do it.

40%+ of crimes in the UK are done while under the influence of alcohol, most of them common assault or wounding. Most of these crimes are done in the 19-29 age category, I live in London, if there is not a fatal stabbing in one of the local areas in North London each day, it would be a miracle.

I can justify very good reasons for alcohol as a bad thing, yet the best answer for alcohol use, is "I enjoy it".
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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by Infinite » May 20th, 2009, 8:53 pm

matt101harris wrote:
Infinite wrote:had a few people die in my town because they had too much alcohol (drinking + driving = no-go) so I decided to stick to Pepsi (the new/limited Throwback Pepsi owns) and Coke.
lol pwn sounds like a very nice town :S. I thought canada was suposed to be like anti everthing :S
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Re: alcoholic intoxication

Post by Soviet » May 20th, 2009, 10:48 pm

To further Drofder's post, the statement "It makes me happy" or "I enjoy it" is completely ludicrous. There are thousands of things you can enjoy in life without having to drink alcohol. And to state that it makes you happy is outright delusional. It is a false sense of happiness that comes from fucking up your mind. Why don't you spend the time you would normally spend making yourself look like an ass doing something constructive like building healthy social relationships which don't rely on mind altering substances. You know, things that can actually make you happy?

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