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Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 22nd, 2010, 10:35 pm
by Drofder2004
matt101harris wrote:people who have skill are good at promod.
Sigh, is it even worth me continuing this?

Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 22nd, 2010, 11:59 pm
by [SoE]_Zaitsev
Drofder2004 wrote:
[SoE]_Zaitsev wrote:Equally skilled sniper with normal scope vs acog scope. It's obvious who's going to win.
But that is not what is the problem.

This mentality is why we get such boring frag videos, everyone using a standard boring sniper, or the AK47 or AK74u... As soon as somebody comes in with a different gun, we automatically write it off as a shit frag?
No hold up. People actually using different guns ? Awesome!

But the acog scope is no gun, but an attachement! And the most horrible one in-game aswell. Red Dot is much better. And in the case of a sniper, the normal scope is a no brainer.

Anyway, personally I hate burst weapons. I play worse with them than an automated MG. If people play better with a burst weapon then so be it, each to their own. But in the case of an acog scope it's just stupid and you WILL perform worse.

Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 23rd, 2010, 12:43 am
by Drofder2004
[SoE]_Zaitsev wrote:But in the case of an acog scope it's just stupid and you WILL perform worse.
No, YOU will perform worse.

Just because most people would play better with a scope over an acog, doesn't mean it is true to everyone.

Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 23rd, 2010, 1:05 am
by [SoE]_Zaitsev
In case of a sniper rifle, everyone will perform worse.

Or maybe better worded: You will have better results with enhanced zoom.

Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 23rd, 2010, 1:41 am
by KIWIDOGGIE
Ive been recording on Console for awhile ;) I have many glitch/tricks/montages for Xbox 360 and some PS3. I meant I am new on PC COD4.

I also started playing some Promod, its very fun :D I got my first +15 yesterday =]

Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 23rd, 2010, 1:46 am
by matt101harris
KIWIDOGGIE wrote:Ive been recording on Console for awhile ;) I have many glitch/tricks/montages for Xbox 360 and some PS3. I meant I am new on PC COD4.

I also started playing some Promod, its very fun :D I got my first +15 yesterday =]
nice 1 :D. Have you got xfire? maybe 1 day you can play a match with us :D. Add mine.... matt101harris and msg me when i accept :D

Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 23rd, 2010, 3:37 am
by Hoogie
matt101harris wrote:If your good
noone says he is good. might be the reason he uses agoc, because he only played a month and isn't very good yet?

Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 23rd, 2010, 6:02 pm
by F |Madness| U
[SoE]_Zaitsev wrote:In case of a sniper rifle, everyone will perform worse.

Or maybe better worded: You will have better results with enhanced zoom.
Why? If your running around (as apposed to `camp` sniping) close to enemies an M40 ACOG is much more practical than a scope with enhanced zoom.

The ACOG kills in one hit ANYWHERE on the body (whereas reg scope doesn't in lower leg/arm areas), it also has a shorter zoom in/out time for quicker kills.

Some people may say its nooby etc but it doesn't change the fact that many people will perform better with an ACOG on a sniper rifle.

I'm not judging on which is better as I use both.

Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 23rd, 2010, 6:49 pm
by [SoE]_Zaitsev
I'm judging on what is better because I know it :roll:

I've been sniping (And Instagib!) ever since MoH:AA. I know what is best.

Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 23rd, 2010, 10:13 pm
by Drofder2004
[SoE]_Zaitsev wrote:I know what is best.
You know what is BEST FOR YOU.

Heres some RAW facts...

Add "Stopping Power":
ACOG = 75 * (100+40) / 100 = 105 damage.
Scope = 70 * (100+40) / 100 = 98 damage.

ACOG is a guaranteed kill when you hit ANYWHERE on the body (if enemy has not got armor on)
Scope is not.
This is only true for the M40a3, all other snipers are 70/70.

So, if a player is good enough to use an ACOG, then mathematically speaking they will be better than any scoper.
But obviously, those of you who play slow and kill at distance, stick to your scope...

Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 24th, 2010, 5:26 pm
by [SoE]_Zaitsev
Sorry, you don't know me, I don't camp at the back of the map, take some cheap kills.

What someone does on close range with an acog scope, I'll do it shitloads better with my enhanced scope and trusty pistol.

Enhanced Scope > acog

I'm talking about experience here and lots of skill.

Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 24th, 2010, 5:51 pm
by F |Madness| U
Thats all well and fine then Soviet but don't go assuming that just because you find yourself better with a reg scope that everyone else is better with one.

Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 24th, 2010, 7:38 pm
by Hoogie
Just use what you prefer and end this pointless discussion.

Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 24th, 2010, 8:05 pm
by [SoE]_Zaitsev
madnesslink5 wrote:Thats all well and fine then Soviet but don't go assuming that just because you find yourself better with a reg scope that everyone else is better with one.
I'm not Soviet.

Also, a few posts back I stated you will have better results with the normal scope.

Re: Elevator Shooting

Posted: February 24th, 2010, 8:55 pm
by F |Madness| U
My bad Zait, but thats what I mean, make a statement that its better FOR YOU fine, but its not for everyone.