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zait why are you posting that? to prove how cool you are?

Ch4vioN wrote:zait why are you posting that? to prove how cool you are?

gosh i love that post .... why does he have 2 prove he is cool when he is

Mooselflies wrote:

Ch4vioN wrote:zait why are you posting that? to prove how cool you are?

gosh i love that post .... why does he have 2 prove he is cool when he is

Chavion obviously you aren't cool, Mooselflies is though ^^

[SoE]_Zaitsev wrote:I've done shitloads of awesome jumps on CoD:UO. Never given credit to myself. But if a jump is that awesome, and when I (Or someone else) put shitloads of hours into it, then the credit to yourself and the helpers is in place.

Also, I can't remember me ever flaming someone that I found it before. But plain old stealing your video and giving credit to yourself is just lame (Which was done with Out of Nightfire on CoD5). Got it quickly removed from youtube though

I personally know the people who helped me a lot during CoD4. Evil Warrior, Dude, Alex, Crash, Pres, Damsel, Raptus and even you Innkeeper. So I know who are helpful in my book

I give up. You refuse to learn anything whatsoever about what I'm discussing, and you have apparently switched your argument to say nearly the same thing as I have been saying, so it would be foolish to argue with what I (somewhat) agree with.

Those may be the people who have helped you, but you obviously have not seen the people behind the scenes. There was a very specific reason for me not posting jumps after the WaW jump rush, but I'll just leave it at that. I've given up on spreading jumps on these forums and have let other people post them as a result of that. It's simply not worth it when people have the attitude of "post it first, and you get the credit."


also, I don't know if I already said this, but I honestly never knew about the jump from the topic >.>. Probably because I don't care much about elevators tho :S.

And you fail to understand the fact that whoever posts a movie or a demo first is 'the first' to have done it. In LOADS of topics people find a new jump. But then people point out that it's been done before with a link to the video or the topic. So apparently IT IS important to lots of people.

It became even more important with CoD4 because of youtube.

Infinite wrote:

Mooselflies wrote:frankly it can't be old unless u can prove a video or demo

If you want to get technical about it, it can be "old" if the person has found it and never bothered to post it, but they have no proof except their memory, which we cannot read in the same way that we read a memory stick yet.

This is what started it. Everybody can say: ''It's old, I did it months ago but never made a video!''

Isn't that stupid ?

I've had SHITLOADS of times that people said they found a new jump, but where's the proof ? A while back ago there was a guy who said he could get out of Creek and breach the skybox by some funky tactics. I never seen proof of it. It's your statement vs no video whatsoever. Do you believe the guy without a video ? NO!

[SoE]_Zaitsev wrote:And you fail to understand the fact that whoever posts a movie or a demo first is 'the first' to have done it. In LOADS of topics people find a new jump. But then people point out that it's been done before with a link to the video or the topic. So apparently IT IS important to lots of people.

It became even more important with CoD4 because of youtube.

Infinite wrote:

Mooselflies wrote:frankly it can't be old unless u can prove a video or demo

If you want to get technical about it, it can be "old" if the person has found it and never bothered to post it, but they have no proof except their memory, which we cannot read in the same way that we read a memory stick yet.

This is what started it. Everybody can say: ''It's old, I did it months ago but never made a video!''

Isn't that stupid ?

I've had SHITLOADS of times that people said they found a new jump, but where's the proof ? A while back ago there was a guy who said he could get out of Creek and breach the skybox by some funky tactics. I never seen proof of it. It's your statement vs no video whatsoever. Do you believe the guy without a video ? NO!

And I will, AGAIN, state that I strongly disagree with your views. I have my own beliefs about this subject. You have not fully comprehended what I have written down, and it seems that you never will at this rate. This started in a different topic, but I am done listening and responding to someone who is arguing with someone whose point they do not understand. This is the last bit that I will write about, as my views on this topic have been stated, and I do NOT believe that the first person to post a video on a jump "owns" it or has "credit" for finding it.

Just to clarify what I wrote, as it seems you didn't understand it:

If you want to get technical about it, it can be "old" if the person has found it and never bothered to post it, but they have no proof except their memory, which we cannot read in the same way that we read a memory stick yet.

I was mainly joking around with the fact that the first person to find it has it in their brain, and if we could read their brain, then we could find the true founder of the jump.

In the end, I don't give a flying fuck as to who found the jump, but I do care about the jump itself, and whom the credits actually go to, which brings us to a similar saying which Voltaire once said: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

If you want to get technical about it, it can be "old" if the person has found it and never bothered to post it, but they have no proof except their memory, which we cannot read in the same way that we read a memory stick yet.

And there we have it, this is your flaw.

Have a nice day Infinite

'Credit' hasn't been this important since CoD4 because of youtube and people making (Sometimes awesome movies) which is even more work then just a screenshot or a demo.

Infinite wrote:"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

I disapprove of that quote. While it is open-minded it encourages idiocy in a time when the world has far too much of an abundance of it. I would alter it to say "I disapprove of what you say, but if you have clear logical parameters for your thinking and approached your conclusion methodically I will defend to the death your right to say it." Otherwise you'd just hear pointless crap from the idiots of the world 24/7. Philosophical topic ruiner strikes again!

Soviet wrote:

Infinite wrote:"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

I disapprove of that quote. While it is open-minded it encourages idiocy in a time when the world has far too much of an abundance of it. I would alter it to say "I disapprove of what you say, but if you have clear logical parameters for your thinking and approached your conclusion methodically I will defend to the death your right to say it." Otherwise you'd just hear pointless crap from the idiots of the world 24/7. Philosophical topic ruiner strikes again!

That post just boggles my mind!

Soviet wrote:

Infinite wrote:"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

I disapprove of that quote. While it is open-minded it encourages idiocy in a time when the world has far too much of an abundance of it. I would alter it to say "I disapprove of what you say, but if you have clear logical parameters for your thinking and approached your conclusion methodically I will defend to the death your right to say it." Otherwise you'd just hear pointless crap from the idiots of the world 24/7. Philosophical topic ruiner strikes again!

I can not say that I believe that your addition is necessary, but I do understand your argument. If an idiot speaks we can just laugh at him, and that's the end of that, unless I am missing something from what you are attempting to get across.

Idiot's suggestions can often be degrading to the progress and well being of the world. Take, for instance, the Catholic Church's constant proclamation that condoms are evil and their constant attempts to end the usage of them in Africa. This causes less people to use condoms, which in turn causes HIV to be spread further faster. Examples such as this exist everywhere, from politics to education, laws to social standards.

Free speech is a nice right to have, but when people go around screaming things with no basis in rational thought, then they are simply harming the world. I would be perfectly fine with the Catholic Church telling people in Africa to not use condoms if they had some type of scientific trial using the proper scientific method or some rational branch of thought through which they arrived at a logically based conclusion for their statement. However, if they don't, they're simply leeching away progress from humanity.

Soviet wrote:Idiot's suggestions can often be degrading to the progress and well being of the world. Take, for instance, the Catholic Church's constant proclamation that condoms are evil and their constant attempts to end the usage of them in Africa. This causes less people to use condoms, which in turn causes HIV to be spread further faster. Examples such as this exist everywhere, from politics to education, laws to social standards.

Free speech is a nice right to have, but when people go around screaming things with no basis in rational thought, then they are simply harming the world. I would be perfectly fine with the Catholic Church telling people in Africa to not use condoms if they had some type of scientific trial using the proper scientific method or some rational branch of thought through which they arrived at a logically based conclusion for their statement. However, if they don't, they're simply leeching away progress from humanity.

I agree on that view.

Soviet wrote:Free speech is a nice right to have, but when people go around screaming things with no basis in rational thought, then they are simply harming the world. I would be perfectly fine with the Catholic Church telling people in Africa to not use condoms if they had some type of scientific trial using the proper scientific method or some rational branch of thought through which they arrived at a logically based conclusion for their statement. However, if they don't, they're simply leeching away progress from humanity.

On that sour note:

infinite...u never make videos...what else can u do except whinning about credits ...it doesnt make u cool by saying this is old..that is old..it only makes ppl think that u are annoy....ppl spent hours and hours to make videos to share with others ..cant u just say something nice?...like......"not new to me xD but really nice vid"....ofc they can have the credits...i dont care who found it..i only care who share it...this community is trying to help ppl jump and find more glitches.then make vids share with others...and again..what else can u do...except whinning?~~~ btw really nice found moose..

Ch4vioN wrote:zait why are you posting that? to prove how cool you are?

i think u have issues...