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Drofder2004 wrote:Possible issue. With many combinations (~20000) to vote and the amount of people who will vote the maps will not average out quickly if we base the numbers at 0.

With such a little "work force" we need to speed up the process and use a league based system.
Get one person to assign an order of difficulty to EVERY map.
Each map is given a number equal to that order.
Each vote adds -offset (0.25?) or +offset to the winning and losing maps (negatives being an advance in levels).

Random number maps are chosen and are placed against the NEXT map to their side (either +1 or -1)

Using this method will force maps to be compared only against similar level maps.
There becomes a significantly lower combination possibility (an Easy map will never be against an expert map).

Also, a lot of similarly difficulty maps will be jumping between positions as they contend against each other.

The only issue would be duplicate voting, which would be impossible to track due to a constant change in map positions, however I feel this will not be a problem as the maps will average themselves out, even if only 1 person does all the voting.

That seems like a quite faire system, but maps with several ways need to be parts according to the ways, like mp_dark(H) , mp_dark(E) or whatever, and those are 2 different pieces from the database, they get different score. Wouldnt be that big work to do.

I task someone to give me EVERY route on all 140 maps, unless all 140 are done, then no way is it going to be considered.
The routes must be CLEARLY labeled on each map.
I would prefer to see the maps labeled using a generic wording (easy, medium, hard or beginner, advanced, pro, etc).
Maximum of 3 routes per map.

I have an idea of how to implement it without using duplicate maps, but without those criteria being met, I see no point.
There also needs to be enough requirement to have it. If only 5% of maps use routes, it is not worth adding.

challenge accepted.
ill do a large excel sheet on it but did u want me to put my opinion on the difficulties aswell? then ill send it to an admin and they can either change it abit or make it into whatever we have been planning here

thats what i meant by giving it to you guys. i was just going to write the raw data then see if u guys could make it into a voting thing

KillerSam wrote:

Mirko wrote:challenge accepted.
ill do a large excel sheet on it but did u want me to put my opinion on the difficulties aswell? then ill send it to an admin and they can either change it abit or make it into whatever we have been planning here

How do you propose to get an excel sheet to store the publics vote? It'll need to be a php / sql page.

I asked for a list of routes for every map. This is what the challenge was that has been accepted.

Peds propel 200/1000
To the moon (ez) 400/1000
Lava jump (ez) 400/1000
Sonic 500/1000
Portal 500/1000
To the moon ( inter) 600/1000
Eb bouncer (650/1000)
Islands 675/1000
To the moon (adv) 750/1000
Qube(780/1000)
Space 790/1000
Mystic 800/1000
Dark (850/1000)
Dark 2 (875/1000)
Nightmare(900/1000)
Dark 3 (950/1000)
Sunset (990/1000)
Bouncer training (99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999/1000

Freakz already made a comprehensive list and used high skill jumpers and a rating system of 1-20 to rate the difficulty of maps. 20 being the hardest. mp_sunset had a 19 I think. I could try to find the link again..It was a google doc spreadsheet i believe.

Also..I did my own version of this before.. long ago..and its most definitely outdated at this point but you can take a look at it..

TOP 35 HARDEST *VERY OLD*

EXTREME

1 mp_dark_v3 <-----------------------CURRENTLY THE HARDEST MAP released as of October 24th, 2012
2 mp_colour
3 mp_futile
4 mp_awe (advanced) (unfinished)
5 mp_monster
6 mp_mystic_v2
7 mp_nightmare
8 mp_awe (hard) (unfinished)
9 mp_dependence
10 mp_styx_jump
11 mp_three (unfinished)
12 mp_nightmare_v2 (unfinished)
13 mp_mystic
14 mp_dark <------------------------------------------------------------------- Hardest map as of Jan 4, 2012

Advanced

15 mp_dark_v2
16 mp_woodland
17 mp_oerba
18 mp_herba
19 mp_mines_of_moria
20 mp_shade (unfinished)
21 mp_bone
22 mp_devine
23 mp_oblivious_v2
24 mp_space
25 mp_descent
26 mp_futurama
27 mp_pfx_evacuate (unfinished)
28 mp_polar
29 mp_trial_2_p (advanced)
30 mp_to_the_moon_v2 (advanced)
31 mp_madhouse (advanced)
32 mp_nevada
33 mp_to_the_moon (advanced)

Hard

34 mp_destroyed
35 mp_insane <--------------------------------------------------------------- Hardest map as of Sep 14, 2011

"As you can see, the progression of new hard maps is pretty insane. What we considered hard in 2011 was nowhere near what we have in 2012. It makes me wonder how hard maps will continue to be in 2013."

The list made by fre4kZ: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv? ... full#gid=0

ahahahahahahaha omg my comments from above, Why the fuck did i agree to dat shiz, i got through about 90 maps then rage quit.

ps Soz Drofder and Killersam, Not that probably cared anyway