I know what your saying, but when an object is pushed out of the clip (the tactical being pushed out of the target dummy clip) it will stop moving once it is outside of the clip- and the target dummy doesn't move out of the map so I thought it would just be pushed out of the clip and dropped onto the floor next to the target dummy, since the target dummy doesn't move out of the map.
Correct me If I'm wrong I might be missing something completely.
Re: Out Of Firing Range!
Posted: November 18th, 2010, 11:20 pm
by Drofder2004
Yes, just went and had a proper look and see your point.
Not really sure as I could not produce any result, even using the TI to spawn inside the dummy just pushed me slightly closer to the map wall and nowhere further.
Need more thinking
Re: Out Of Firing Range!
Posted: November 19th, 2010, 10:51 am
by Mooselflies
true that becuase when ever i tried it it ever landed next 2 the wall or on the little fence you start on
Re: Out Of Firing Range!
Posted: November 19th, 2010, 11:23 am
by Mooselflies
after looking around i found that the pushing clip can move the tactical over gaps
Re: Out Of Firing Range!
Posted: November 19th, 2010, 2:55 pm
by [SoE]_Zaitsev
Ahhh nice find. Maybe this could get you onto new places!
Re: Out Of Firing Range!
Posted: November 19th, 2010, 6:45 pm
by F |Madness| U
Very nice find, on that video you just posted on Nuketown, did you have to do anything just before you released the tactical insertion? Or just release it at the feet of that clip and it got pushed (because I thought tacticals went exactly where you are stood, and your stood on a bit that isn't clipped).
Re: Out Of Firing Range!
Posted: November 19th, 2010, 8:44 pm
by Drofder2004
madnesslink5 wrote:Very nice find, on that video you just posted on Nuketown, did you have to do anything just before you released the tactical insertion? Or just release it at the feet of that clip and it got pushed (because I thought tacticals went exactly where you are stood, and your stood on a bit that isn't clipped).
TestSpawnPoint is only listed in the tactical-insertion gsc, so I assume its an Engine function.
My theory is that it uses a series of spacial checks to find the nearest possible place that a player may spawn.
The spawnpoint must allow for 33x32x72 dimensions (try load in a crouch only space).
It is possible that the position must be above a certain depth from play and center origin for it to be consider to far to drop downwards, when this happens, it must find a sutiable place horizontally. In this circumstance, the ledge.
This may lead to some potential exploits, just got to find similar positions to test it.
Re: Out Of Firing Range!
Posted: November 19th, 2010, 9:44 pm
by Mooselflies
madnesslink5 wrote:Very nice find, on that video you just posted on Nuketown, did you have to do anything just before you released the tactical insertion? Or just release it at the feet of that clip and it got pushed (because I thought tacticals went exactly where you are stood, and your stood on a bit that isn't clipped).
nope just run jump drop
Re: Out Of Firing Range!
Posted: November 19th, 2010, 9:45 pm
by Drofder2004
Tested myself. Jump onto truck and tactical insertion will just spawn on balcony.
Re: Out Of Firing Range!
Posted: November 19th, 2010, 10:30 pm
by F |Madness| U
Awesome, ima go hunting some glitches then!
Re: Out Of Firing Range!
Posted: November 28th, 2010, 9:41 pm
by Drofder2004
Small post to give understanding on the tactical insertion bug the throws it across gaps...
The tactical insertion will always go to the LAST potential location, not the nearest.
For example, on Launch: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=12837
After doing that jump, try put down a Tactical insertion. It will spawn where you jumped from. I have found a few palces that this happens.
Re: Out Of Firing Range!
Posted: December 26th, 2010, 6:36 am
by JRmoomoo45
Great find! Im gonna test this out for sure
Re: Out Of Firing Range!
Posted: December 27th, 2010, 12:38 am
by Drofder2004
JRmoomoo45 wrote:Great find! Im gonna test this out for sure
Its no longer that exciting. The original bug was fixed by Treyarch (out of map).
The tactical insertion 'exploit' is no more an exploit than a engine fail salfe that records movement and only allows the tactical insertion to be placed in a place where you can spawn without falling or getting stuck.
Re: Out Of Firing Range!
Posted: November 24th, 2013, 8:43 am
by ultralala
after years i still think the vid is fake(and i uploaded it lol). The only reason it still exist is that i keep it for the memories.
Like Drofder said..."and only allows the tactical insertion to be placed in a place where you can spawn without falling or getting stuck." Why in the hell would it be out of map? Theres no reason. It allways will be placed where u started jumping.
Edit for strangers in 2013: I know its old
Re: Out Of Firing Range!
Posted: November 24th, 2013, 3:06 pm
by Drofder2004
No idea what made you bring this up, but after a very quick look back, I would agree - it is 100% fake.
The code simply reads, if the player is on the ground and the latestOrigin (last location) is true when tested as a "SpawnPoint", then you can place the tactical insertion.
The TestSpawnPoint function is build in, but it would be a very simple concept to CoD1 "positionWouldTelefrag" function, it would simply stop the player spawning in a position that would cause a problem.
Either a tactical insertion pre-placed outside the map (and then a simple weapon switch to cancel placing the tactical insertion) or possibly even video editing.
