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.bsp uncompiler?

Post by oppdelta » September 17th, 2007, 2:12 pm

is there a bsp uncompiler anywere on this internet :?:

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Post by Drofder2004 » September 17th, 2007, 3:11 pm

Not for CoD games.

I believe there is a bsp decompiler for the old quakes, and that is it.
BSP decompiling is as legal as reverse engineering.
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Post by 9mm » September 17th, 2007, 9:58 pm

Drofder2004 wrote:Not for CoD games.

I believe there is a bsp decompiler for the old quakes, and that is it.
BSP decompiling is as legal as reverse engineering.
Just wondering are you saying it is legal or illegal because I know in the usa the dmca of 1998 states that there are cases in which it is legal to reverse engineer software? I would assume that a decompiler would be treated the same way making it legal.

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Post by Drofder2004 » September 17th, 2007, 11:59 pm

KillerSam wrote:he is saying it is on par "same legality as" - since illegal and legal are both measures of the same thing - by saying "as illegal" or "as legal" doesnt matter :)
Fecking hell, somebody give this guy a cookie, or better yet, give him Peds' university place :p

Anyways, by "as legal as reverse engineering", I meant in terms of CoD not general.
Anything which you have no permission to "RE" is illegal to do so, it is the same as bsps.
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Post by 9mm » September 18th, 2007, 1:06 am

KS That really just confused me and I am lost, but I will take that cookie off your hands :wink:

anyways in the usa as stated by the dmca

Reverse engineering (section 1201(f)). This exception permits
circumvention, and the development of technological means for such
circumvention, by a person who has lawfully obtained a right to use a
copy of a computer program for the sole purpose of identifying and
analyzing elements of the program necessary to achieve interoperability
with other programs, to the extent that such acts are permitted under
copyright law.

but the uk laws are probably different, so if u ever need to decompile something get a usa guy to do it

I feel like a smart person now, do I get that cookie yet? :)

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Post by Drofder2004 » September 18th, 2007, 8:23 am

9mm wrote:KS That really just confused me and I am lost, but I will take that cookie off your hands :wink:

anyways in the usa as stated by the dmca

Reverse engineering (section 1201(f)). This exception permits
circumvention, and the development of technological means for such
circumvention, by a person who has lawfully obtained a right to use a
copy of a computer program for the sole purpose of identifying and
analyzing elements of the program necessary to achieve interoperability
with other programs, to the extent that such acts are permitted under
copyright law.

but the uk laws are probably different, so if u ever need to decompile something get a usa guy to do it

I feel like a smart person now, do I get that cookie yet? :)
For quoting a law and then misinterpreting its meaning? You get no cookie!

You cannot legally reverse engineer a piece of software you do not own the copyright to or have permission to do so. Whether you are a US citizen or not, it is illegal. It also is not dependant of country as copyright laws will exist in all countries.
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Post by oppdelta » September 18th, 2007, 8:59 am

Why has mostly everything i posted always turn into a debate. :shock: Ok i guess i get teh idea, Thanks :)

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Post by oppdelta » September 18th, 2007, 11:04 am

Can i have a cookie?


Plz :lol: :roll:

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Post by Lethal323 » September 18th, 2007, 10:27 pm

I have a sugar cookie...


You can have on delta


**COOKIE**

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Post by Drofder2004 » September 19th, 2007, 12:58 am

3 x Cookies = Locked thread :)
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Post by Pedsdude » September 19th, 2007, 1:27 am

Drofder2004 wrote:give him Peds' university place :p
Hah, earn it!
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