Come to Fr3ak's jump server and check out his new map!

[Hoogie]

Conclusion: 2 different opinion but obvious which opinion will win.
If you want it your way, start your own community.

[Drofder2004]

This will be the last comment I reply to from you, because this alone to me, proves you are just making up your opinion as you go along. Changing your view point as argument sees fit and making the biggest fault in any debate: contradiction.

That's not true, you don't care if a cheater plays on a jumping server, nobody cares.

- Unban aimbotters/wallhackers

Na, there are no serious cheats on codjumper and for those little ones you wouldn't ban anyone, but you should kick them while they are in server and do it, but then again, only 1 person is active enough to do it.

- Kick for little cheats

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[Lancast]

99.9999999% of the people who play in jump servers on CoD4 also play in shoot servers. If they ruin peoples' games in the game mode which everyone plays (public), then I will quite happily stop them playing my game mode.

Fair enough, can't argue with your opinion.

I know it was the wrong thing to do, but it's just like illegal music/film downloading - everyone else does it, you know it's wrong, but that doesn't stop you from doing it yourself.

No it's compeletely different, by glitching on the zombie server you harm other people, you ruin their fun, most of people cant glitch so there is no way for them to kill you, many quit the server, others report you. It's a wrong thing to do, let's just end it at that.

This will be the last comment I reply to from you

Let's see if you can stick to that.

That's not true, you don't care if a cheater plays on a jumping server, nobody cares.

- Unban aimbotters/wallhackers

They aren't banned directly on your server anyway, so it's not unbaning because you can't unban them from where they are banned, aka- ggc-stream. I was telling you to remove ggc-stream but this has already been cleared out and it will stay so that's that.

Na, there are no serious cheats on codjumper and for those little ones you wouldn't ban anyone, but you should kick them while they are in server and do it, but then again, only 1 person is active enough to do it.

- Kick for little cheats

Well that was based on the thing that you ban those who don't do anything directly to codjumper and not kick those who stuff directly, but that was cleared out too so that's that.

Conclusion: 2 different opinion but obvious which opinion will win.
If you want it your way, start your own community.

I'd insult you for not brining anything new to the topic and saying something pointless just to annoy me but I won't, not worth getting banned for it.

[Pedsdude]

Fair enough, can't argue with your opinion.

You've done a good job of doing so thus far

[Hoogie]

Conclusion: 2 different opinion but obvious which opinion will win.
If you want it your way, start your own community.

I'd insult you for not brining anything new to the topic and saying something pointless just to annoy me but I won't, not worth getting banned for it.

I believe he was talking about insulting another CJ team member, so you free to insult me, like i am free to give my opinion

[Soviet]

This whole argument is ridiculous. Lancast's point holds a small amount of validity, and the only reason it's being debated so heavily is because he is presenting that view in the same way he presents every argument. I'm not saying I agree with him, but that doesn't mean that he's completely wrong, because there isn't really a right or wrong in this situation. If Lancast wants to argue something he believes in with no real effect on anything, that's his choice and his right. This subject isn't a clear cut black and white issue, it's a matter of perspective.

[Drofder2004]

This whole argument is ridiculous. Lancast's point holds a small amount of validity, and the only reason it's being debated so heavily is because he is presenting that view in the same way he presents every argument. I'm not saying I agree with him, but that doesn't mean that he's completely wrong, because there isn't really a right or wrong in this situation. If Lancast wants to argue something he believes in with no real effect on anything, that's his choice and his right. This subject isn't a clear cut black and white issue, it's a matter of perspective.

Since when were rules and laws a matter of opinion and perspective?
The only valid perspective is the perspective from the person who makes the rules. If I were the person making the rules and I said, I do not allow the letter D to be used in names on our server, would that still be an arguable point?

The fact of this argument is: that we stream to the global list to stop KNOWN hackers from joining our server. We do this for no other reason than morals. We as gamers as well as jumpers, do not want these hackers to enjoy our server because of what they decided to do on another server.

I fail to see how this is not totally black and white.

Unless we are taking a look into the non-issues of rank hacking, dvar unlocking and Peds setting a bad example >.>
Soviet, I can understand when you have a valid point, maybe you could bring to light what part of Lancast's case is nothing but checkered...

[Soviet]

First off I fail to see how it is a specific rule that we must abide by. Second of all, even if it was a rule, that by no means makes it black and white. Blind obedience to rules and laws never makes sense because far too often the intent of said laws and rules is corrupted and they end up not being used for their intention. The same thing could occur here. I'm not saying I agree with Lancast, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't provide a valid point.

[Lancast]

I think you're mistaken there Drofder. Which servers are actually owned by Codjumper? The only one I know is CJ#1 and that doesn't have neither PB or Stream so you cannot classify having stream as a *rule* or a *law* on codjumper as it's up to the donators whenever to use it or not. Now that I think about it, we never even mentioned it, nor Peds or KS have any effect whenever to use Stream as it's not their servers that use it..

the stream shall stay

End story: we're not removing the streaming.

Which servers are you guys talking about? Didn't quite catch that.

[Innkeeper]

Can we just get rid of him he's quite possibly one of the biggest trolls I've ever seen...

[[SoE]_Zaitsev]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT LOOK AT MY POST COUNT GUYS! IT'S OVER 10FUCKINGTHOUSAND POSTS! ISN'T IT COOL HOW I COMPLETELY TALK IN CAPS AND ACTUALLY START A USEFUL AND AWESOME DISCUSSION IN HERE NOW !? WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ALSO LOOK AT THIS COLOR: IT'S MY FAVOURITE!

[Azabael]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT LOOK AT MY POST COUNT GUYS! IT'S OVER 10FUCKINGTHOUSAND POSTS! ISN'T IT COOL HOW I COMPLETELY TALK IN CAPS AND ACTUALLY START A USEFUL AND AWESOME DISCUSSION IN HERE NOW !? WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ALSO LOOK AT THIS COLOR: IT'S MY FAVOURITE!

Aiaiai!

[Soviet]

*sigh*

[Lancast]

[freak720]

So thx for spaming my thread 1 post about the title nice Well for the real questions:)

1. the server is for cod4
2. codjumper mod is running
3. the map is mp_freak_jump (my new map)
4. i will try to remove the ggc-stream not because i admit lancast opinion (cheater have no rights) no because it will lag less
5. its a 32 slot server so fill it
6. ip: 85.25.152.243:28965

greetings

Fr3ak