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This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Lawless » January 28th, 2011, 6:12 pm

This is my very first map I have ever made.
This whole map is 125 fps normal mode.


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Can any server owners add this to your map lisr plz??
Can any admin add this map to this site plzzzz??
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Re: This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Hoogie » January 28th, 2011, 6:57 pm

Already posted this in the Favourite Maps thread but i'll post it here aswell:

Map looks good.

2 pointers for your next map:

1. This map won't do good in a public server because theres no room for multiple people to do the same jump at once.
2. The ending is very poor. You want to give the players something for finishing the map. Secret rooms always do good.
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Re: This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Pedsdude » January 28th, 2011, 7:01 pm

If I'm going to be honest, I don't think the video is good enough to go up as a walkthrough. It doesn't look very good with the entire video sped up, it doesn't have the FPS number as clearly stated as in our other walkthrough videos (yes, I do know that you have the FPS but it's not clear and I would imagine MANY people would ask what FPS are required for various jumps), and the video quality isn't great :?
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Re: This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Hoogie » January 28th, 2011, 7:52 pm

Played the map and you actually overused RPG's on your own map. That said, the map is very confusing on where to go next, actually had to go back to the walkthrough 2 times to finish the map.

Also, what is this?
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It's after the second bounce. Is it some kind of secret where i couldn't figure out the rest of it or just some bug?

I like the fact that the first jump is in the same room as the last jump.

Overall 2/5. Would give you 3/5 if it was a playable map on public servers.
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Re: This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Lawless » January 28th, 2011, 8:00 pm

Hoogie wrote:Already posted this in the Favourite Maps thread but i'll post it here aswell:

Map looks good.

2 pointers for your next map:

1. This map won't do good in a public server because theres no room for multiple people to do the same jump at once.
2. The ending is very poor. You want to give the players something for finishing the map. Secret rooms always do good.
I relised that it wouldn't be good on a public server when i tested it for the first time but I got to far to start a new map so i didnt want to delete it...

The ending is poor because i still dont know how to add weapons that you could pick up or add text on your screen when you finish.

an you help me in adding guns and text please?
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Re: This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Lawless » January 28th, 2011, 8:04 pm

Pedsdude wrote:If I'm going to be honest, I don't think the video is good enough to go up as a walkthrough. It doesn't look very good with the entire video sped up, it doesn't have the FPS number as clearly stated as in our other walkthrough videos (yes, I do know that you have the FPS but it's not clear and I would imagine MANY people would ask what FPS are required for various jumps), and the video quality isn't great :?
I know it doesnt look good sped up as fearless had told me after he viewed it so in the future i will keep it normal speed.

I stated clearly in this post that this whole map is 125 fps so i figured i didnt need to add it in the video + dont know how lol.
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Re: This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Lawless » January 28th, 2011, 8:07 pm

Hoogie wrote:Played the map and you actually overused RPG's on your own map. That said, the map is very confusing on where to go next, actually had to go back to the walkthrough 2 times to finish the map.

Also, what is this?
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It's after the second bounce. Is it some kind of secret where i couldn't figure out the rest of it or just some bug?

I like the fact that the first jump is in the same room as the last jump.

Overall 2/5. Would give you 3/5 if it was a playable map on public servers.
2/5 good enough for first map but this map is supposed to be a tricky map I was just too lazy to add a maze lol.

Thanks for all your honest opinions, now im gonna go make a bigger map that could fit a puplic server,
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Re: This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Lawless » January 28th, 2011, 8:13 pm

Hoogie wrote:Played the map and you actually overused RPG's on your own map. That said, the map is very confusing on where to go next, actually had to go back to the walkthrough 2 times to finish the map.

Also, what is this?
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It's after the second bounce. Is it some kind of secret where i couldn't figure out the rest of it or just some bug?

I like the fact that the first jump is in the same room as the last jump.

Overall 2/5. Would give you 3/5 if it was a playable map on public servers.
Oh and i used rpgs where you dont have to because i was tired and was doing very bad that day.
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Re: This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Drofder2004 » January 28th, 2011, 10:06 pm

Lawless wrote:I was just too lazy to add a maze lol.
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#2 If map contains weapons, it is maximum a 2/5.
#3 Floating platforms have a maximum mark of 3/5
#4 Map requires RPG jumps non-stop, maximum 3/5.
#5 If your name is Rezil, minimum 5/5.
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Re: This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Hoogie » January 28th, 2011, 10:09 pm

A maze is bad indeed. I don't agree on the weapons.
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Re: This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Drofder2004 » January 28th, 2011, 10:12 pm

Hoogie wrote:A maze is bad indeed. I don't agree on the weapons.
there is a map with flash grenades, I went on the game to see how the mod was fairing and all I could see was a pure white screen from the flash bangs... I was going to add an anti-weapon section to the mod due to that map alone.
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Re: This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Rezil » January 28th, 2011, 10:26 pm

Drofder2004 wrote:Drofder's rules for reviewing a map
#5 If your name is Rezil, minimum 5/5.
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To be on-topic:

Based on the walkthrough, the map looks like another copy-paste I've seen countless times. How about trying to innovate in any way(via scripting, interesting design, atmosphere, etc.) and not just do the same thing over and over again. Jumping from platform to platform CAN be enjoyable but tends to get boring fast. And based on the quality of maps I've been seeing lately(save for mp_digital and kuwehr naturally) I really can't understand how people enjoy jumping on these kind of maps...
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Re: This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Soviet » January 28th, 2011, 10:32 pm

Drofder2004 wrote:Drofder's rules for reviewing a map
#1 If map has a maze, it is an instant 1/5.
#2 If map contains weapons, it is maximum a 2/5.
#3 Floating platforms have a maximum mark of 3/5
#4 Map requires RPG jumps non-stop, maximum 3/5.
#5 If your name is Rezil, minimum 5/5.
Drofder2004 wrote:Peds_Puzzle
Peds_Puzzle violates #1, #2, and #3. Hypocrisy much? :P
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Re: This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Husker » January 28th, 2011, 10:43 pm

Rezil wrote:I really can't understand how people enjoy jumping on these kind of maps...
Textures copied from mp_cleopatra and pretty boring and unnatural jumps... glad to see a new map maker but its pretty obvious its your first map and that you need shitloads of progress :(
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Re: This Is My Very First Map Mp_Lawless_v1

Post by Shinryu » January 28th, 2011, 10:55 pm

Not bad for a first, but it DOES need improvement on multiple points.

Speeding up the video isn't normally a problem, but in this case, it is. I can barely see what you're doing. :?
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